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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:28 am
 


Title: China won?t stop flood of fentanyl into Canada, sources say
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2018-12-02 10:14:30
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I'm sorry but, if we keep arresting people like Tiger Yuan over here and they are according our police dept's "allegedly" working with the Chinese security forces is there any reason to doubt the Chinese Gov'ts involvement to?

So if we're counting on them to curb the flow of fentanyl we're going to be sadly dissapointed.


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At the very least, we should make our own procedures more efficient:

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Veterans in drug-trafficking investigations say that Canadian privacy and court procedure time limits also tend to severely limit pursuit of international criminals in Canada, in comparison to investigations by United States and Australian federal police.

Sources have said that Canadian police must file hundreds of pages of evidence in order to get phone intercepts for suspected drug kingpins approved by judges. But in the U.S., they say, such processes require much less paperwork and a more practical standard of evidence.

Australia and United States federal forces also have anti-drug trafficking policing operations in China that the RCMP lacks, sources said.


It’s infuriating to think that ordinary Canadians have to compete with criminals laundering drug money in the property market.

Some of these fentanyl stories are so outlandish. Here’s the pharmacy angle:

แอพยิงปลา https://globalnews.ca/news/4458136/onta ... id-crisis/


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:14 pm
 


At least the Chinese fentanyl comes with high quality melamine in it.


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I’d much rather we had a diplomatic row with China over fentanyl or cyberattacks than because we handed over some executive over to the Americans for doing business with Iran.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... fficer-in/

This has absolutely nothing to do with us. Echoes of Helms Burton.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:25 am
 


Sunnyways wrote:
I’d much rather we had a diplomatic row with China over fentanyl or cyberattacks than because we handed over some executive over to the Americans for doing business with Iran.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... fficer-in/

This has absolutely nothing to do with us. Echoes of Helms Burton.


It doesn't have to involve us. We signed on to conventions that mean if another jurisdiction wants someone, and they are in our jurisdiction, then we must comply.

Or we could become one of those countries that attracts all the people running from all the nice countries of the world, because we don't extradite. She knew the risks, and came here anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:38 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Sunnyways wrote:
I’d much rather we had a diplomatic row with China over fentanyl or cyberattacks than because we handed over some executive over to the Americans for doing business with Iran.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... fficer-in/

This has absolutely nothing to do with us. Echoes of Helms Burton.


It doesn't have to involve us. We signed on to conventions that mean if another jurisdiction wants someone, and they are in our jurisdiction, then we must comply.

Or we could become one of those countries that attracts all the people running from all the nice countries of the world, because we don't extradite. She knew the risks, and came here anyway.


I can see that logic applying to simple criminal cases but this is a different kettle of fish. For starters, has she committed an offence in Canadian law which I thought was a basic requirement for extradition? Any country in the world could sanction any other and demand we hand over somebody on that account. Would we comply? The timing of this event sounds suspiciously political.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm
 


Nice piece by the former ambassador to China:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... -fentanyl/

JT should have been yelling in Xi’s ear about this in Buenos Aires. It matters to Canadian families a lot more than Ukraine or MBS. Even if he did, Lord knows whether it would have done any good. Once more the Chinese are promising to reform their ways:

https://www.everydayhealth.com/opioid-a ... 20-summit/


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